allamaraine asked: I have a question concerning Cinderella. I adore that movie, but I do recognize the problems with it i.e. "all she needs is a prince and a pretty dress" kind of attitude. However, I've run into many arguments accusing her for not standing up for herself more, and that kind of strikes me as victim blaming, as she's in an abusive situation and I was just wondering what you think? Maybe I'm missing something. P.S. Love your blog and I'm so glad I found it~
(I should re-watch this movie sooner or later so I myself could have missed something, but here I go anyways)
I think this in some ways a question about how literally we can interpret these characters. Even if Disney was to take a completely feminist outlook on everything they do and actively attempt to create the least offensive storyline possible, they would still (presumably) have to work within this basic framework:
- the entire story needs to take place within about 2 hours- that is 2 hours to summarize and simplify as neatly as possible days/weeks/years and to differentiate several characters, character relationships, and conflicts.
- the plot has to be simple enough for a young child to gain a reasonable grasp of
- the conflict has to be strong enough to push the story towards a resolution, and to test characters enough to make them interesting.
These constraints alone will sometimes cause a story to run into problems of questionable treatment of their characters. In the case of Cinderella, I don’t think she necessarily needed to “stand up for herself more.” As you stated, she was in a rather abusive situation and when we remove the audience lens of knowing that there is a possibility for a very happy ending, it’s certainly understandable why she would want to stay quiet and not rebel against her oppressors (step-mother, etc) when she has little, if any, bargaining power.
Of course, as a character she is a construct, not a real person, so the creators could have made the story in such a way that allowed her to stick up for herself more/the abuse could have been framed differently/etc.
However, I think it is true that we have to be wary of putting the onus on the victim to respond in a certain way to crimes committed against them. The only responsibility a victim of any type of abuse has is the responsibility to keep themselves as safe as they can manage. To survive. Sometimes survival means following orders, sometimes it means smiling when you want to cry because you know you’ll be punished if you cry. Survival is different for every person.
We’re led by a lot of narratives of movies and tv to expect victims to be magically heroic- to suddenly stand up to their oppressors, defy everything they’ve been taught, and escape in an unlikely yet amazing way and transition easily into a completely different lifestyle.
So perhaps in this way Cinderella’s story is a little closer to real life in that she has been conditioned not to rebel and so when she does rebel, it is in small ways that she is personally comfortable with.
PS. Thanks for the love. :)
I actually really, really agree with the last sentiment. While I like the depiction of Cinderella in A Twist of Time, it was a special set of circumstances.
If you read the Wikipedia page on Cinderella, the fairytale, the intended moral Perrault had set for it was somewhat more realistic, that even with all the grace that should beget success, you still often need a blessing from someone else to make it.
In a sense, while Cinderella is viewed as the least feministic Disney Princess in many ways, she is also in some ways the most realistic. I love Tiana but I think she was a bit naive(which was, I also think, intentional, but still) to think hard work is all it took.
I find especially as a transwoman who is in a rather lowly position in society in many ways I’m expected to rise above far too much, more than is realistically possible.
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My sister asked if the events of “The Labyrinth” are meant to be Sarah dreaming, or are they real? Although my primary reaction was that she shouldn’t put that much thought into any children’s movie (or any instance of David Bowie in tight pants), I’d like to take this opportunity to put so much thought into this children’s movie, that it’ll blow your mind.
So why is David Bowie kidnapping a child from an underage Jennifer Connelley?
In a time long long ago a sorcerer named Jareth fell in love with a girl named Sarah. Sarah’s father and step-mother would not let her marry Jareth because they wanted her to keep her, as a servant, to care for their other child. In a fit of rage Jareth kidnapped this other child and spirited it away to the fairy world. In this new world Jareth built a palace for his Sarah. He turned the spoiled child into a goblin, and kept it to be a servant.
Many stories of the fairy world tell us that time moves differently there than in our world (Rip Van Winkle for one). In the time it took for Jareth to build his kingdom, which he may have thought was little more than a few years, Sarah grew old and died.
Overcome by grief and addled by a lifetime spent in a strange world filled with monsters, Jareth goes mad. He refuses to believe that he has lost his love. He searches the mortal world from his castle, looking for her.
Sarah is Hebrew name. So, it is common, and has been in use for thousands and thousands of years. It does not take long (for him) to find a dark haired girl named Sarah, who has a younger sibling, and who feels that she is treated unfairly by her step mother. In a fit of rage he kidnaps this other child and spirits it away to the fairy world. Perhaps this new Sarah dies in the quest to find the child, perhaps she wins her sibling back and flees.
Jareth searches the mortal world from his from his castle, looking for her. It does not take long to find a dark haired girl named Sarah…
This is how Jareth becomes the goblin king. Every goblin in the goblin city is a child Jareth has stolen, who was not recovered by a Sarah. (he told the current Sarah that Toby would become a goblin if she did not find him in time)
This is why he builds the maze. The magic bog, the junk yard of useless treasures, all tricks to slow Sarah down. Because if he can only have his Sarah for the time it takes for her to regain the stolen child, he will make it take as long as possible, keep her as long as possible.
This is why there exists in our world a book containing the story. Because it has happened before. So many times. At some point some lucky Sarah must have returned to our world to tell the story.
This is why when the most recent Sarah first meets Hoggle at the start of the labyrinth, and introduces herself; “I’m Sarah”, Hoggle responds “That’s what I figured.”
Because of course she’s Sarah.
They were all Sarah.
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